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RedHot150
October 22nd, 2010, 03:56 PM
So...update on the trans:

This new dealer took the trans out....tore it down. Took pics and provided them to Ford ESP. To quote the service writer: "the thing was a mess". Metal all over the place inside. So...Ford ESP approved a whole new trans (finally!). Trans should arrive on Tuesday and be installed on Wednesday. The trans itself will have it's own stand alone warranty.

Klitch
October 22nd, 2010, 04:00 PM
So...update on the trans:

This new dealer took the trans out....tore it down. Took pics and provided them to Ford ESP. To quote the service writer: "the thing was a mess". Metal all over the place inside. So...Ford ESP approved a whole new trans (finally!). Trans should arrive on Tuesday and be installed on Wednesday. The trans itself will have it's own stand alone warranty.
Make sure those clowns change the trans cooler, meaning both the radiator and trans cooler. They'll be packed as well.

BigT67
October 22nd, 2010, 04:02 PM
does the trans warranty transfer to the new owner?

RedHot150
October 22nd, 2010, 04:05 PM
Make sure those clowns change the trans cooler, meaning both the radiator and trans cooler. They'll be packed as well.

If I had plans on keeping the truck for any length of time....I would certainly do that. But since my goal is to dump this truck as soon as I find something to replace it...hopefully real soon....I'm not all that concerned :) lol

RedHot150
October 22nd, 2010, 04:06 PM
does the trans warranty transfer to the new owner?

I'd be lying if I said I cared :grinz: LOL

BigT67
October 22nd, 2010, 04:11 PM
you should care! in this electronic age we live in some pissed off buyer might just track you down and drive you around for a while! :sheep:

Klitch
October 22nd, 2010, 04:20 PM
If I had plans on keeping the truck for any length of time....I would certainly do that. But since my goal is to dump this truck as soon as I find something to replace it...hopefully real soon....I'm not all that concerned :) lol
whatcha lookin for

Bates88
October 22nd, 2010, 04:53 PM
whatcha lookin for

A Focus! :grinz:

2004FX4F150
October 22nd, 2010, 05:01 PM
A Focus! :grinz:

Nay, a Fiesta!

Klitch
October 22nd, 2010, 05:18 PM
doh

2004FX4F150
October 22nd, 2010, 05:23 PM
I swear, those fiestas look like you grab them on the roof, pull em back and let go. I was thinking of putting on in the bed of my truck, instead of keeping a spare tire.

BigT67
October 22nd, 2010, 07:15 PM
i already suggested the Fiesta while he was sulking on the side of the road. didn't appreciate the humor in it at the time! :krying:

Bates88
October 22nd, 2010, 07:18 PM
i already suggested the Fiesta while he was sulking on the side of the road. didn't appreciate the humor in it at the time! :krying:

That's 'cause he appreciates the Canadian "humoUr" instead! :grinz:

2004FX4F150
October 22nd, 2010, 07:19 PM
Well, can you blame him T? He literally, was stuck on the side of the road.

Bates88
October 22nd, 2010, 07:22 PM
That's what happens when you get a lemon that looks like a tomato!

pete59edsel
October 22nd, 2010, 07:22 PM
Wow, I guess I'd replace the lines no matter if I was keeping it or not, remember how you felt when it went down? Why would you want that to happen to someone else...Remember...Karma? it can be a bitch!!

2004FX4F150
October 22nd, 2010, 07:28 PM
That's what happens when you get a lemon that looks like a tomato!

I'm not his mother, but I am his friend, and this just isn't cool. He's spent a lot of time and money on his truck, and it looks damn good, but for as good as it looks, it's given him endless problems and the guy is just sick of it. 4x it's been in the shop for the same problem, and only this time, they are fixing it how it should have been fixed in the first place. Ridiculous.

And before anyone says, well he's not paying for it, of course he is. I don't know about you guys, but when my ESP was added to my payment, it didn't say $0.00. He pays for it as it is factored into his monthly payment.

It sucks that one of our friends are going through this, and nothing is said other than jokes. I highly doubt that if anyone of us had the same problem, that we wouldn't feel pissed coming on here and seeing this.

And as for the lines, of course he's bitter right now, he's pissed and rightfully so. But honestly, he has NO say in how the repair is done, NONE. If the Ford techs choose to put the new lines on or not, it's not his say. If Karma comes into play, it should be against the tech or manager that makes the descision to not use them, not Matt.

pete59edsel
October 22nd, 2010, 07:35 PM
Where is my bull-shit flag when I need it....Of course he can have the lines replaced..I really don't care if he does, all I know is I'm not gonna but it anyway. As far as the jokes, I know people here feel for him, it is just their way of trying to cheer him up...come on now really, time to put on the big boy pants and buck up. Don't come in here with a attitude and expect us to not fire back. I know Matt has been on the other side here and has given shit, but to get it back is wrong?? I think not. Good luck Matt, seems all will be fine.

2004FX4F150
October 22nd, 2010, 07:42 PM
Where is my bull-shit flag when I need it....Of course he can have the lines replaced..I really don't care if he does, all I know is I'm not gonna but it anyway. As far as the jokes, I know people here feel for him, it is just their way of trying to cheer him up...come on now really, time to put on the big boy pants and buck up. Don't come in here with a attitude and expect us to not fire back. I know Matt has been on the other side here and has given shit, but to get it back is wrong?? I think not. Good luck Matt, seems all will be fine.

BS flag? Come on Pete, 3x already he's asked for the tranny to be replaced and they said no. How the hell do you expect him to have line replaced just by asking. If they do it, they do it, if they don't it's really not his fault and I can't seem to grasp how it would be. It's like telling my mechanic that I want him to use snap on tools instead of craftsman, it's impossible and ridiculous.

We have all ribbed each other, myself included, but about funny shit, that's the difference. Bates and my truck being yellow, Cat and his Chevy. But not when one of us is down man. Big boy pants or not and nothing about what he said is indicating that he's taking offense, I'm saying this on my own, cause I think it's just not right, that's all.

Send the condolensces, then when he gets a new ride, the ribbing continues. I mean, we all pay every month for a vehicle, but when shit just keeps piling on and on and on, we tend to hate that check we have to write.

That's all I'm saying..........................Douche! :grinz:

See? Im making fun of you now, that's how we roll.

pete59edsel
October 22nd, 2010, 07:55 PM
LOL.... what ever you say. LMFAO

BigT67
October 22nd, 2010, 08:04 PM
what i find hard to believe is that there isn't some other under lying issue causing the transmission to continue to fail! I had a buick regal years ago that went through 4 transmissions. after getting pinned under the car changing out the last one, i decided to get rid of it. my baby brother was running a consignment lot at the time and he 'parked' it there. well, it turns out he was driving it around and again the tranny let go. my middle brother worked in a machine shop at the time and decided to tear into it and found a bad main bearing that was causing the shaft to spin out of balance and wrecking the transmission.

2004FX4F150
October 23rd, 2010, 11:40 AM
what i find hard to believe is that there isn't some other under lying issue causing the transmission to continue to fail! I had a buick regal years ago that went through 4 transmissions. after getting pinned under the car changing out the last one, i decided to get rid of it. my baby brother was running a consignment lot at the time and he 'parked' it there. well, it turns out he was driving it around and again the tranny let go. my middle brother worked in a machine shop at the time and decided to tear into it and found a bad main bearing that was causing the shaft to spin out of balance and wrecking the transmission.

I certainly agree with you T. It's just amazing that these ESP guys would rather throw parts at it, wasting man hours to try to "fix" it, when it would probably have saved them money to replace it in the first place.

I'm not experienced in lifts and larger tires, but I know if you have the right gears, it shouldn't matter. We have 3.73 gears and I've read that is plenty for 35s. Would a lift cause all these problems? I can't see how, but again, I am not experienced with this stuff.

Klitch
October 23rd, 2010, 01:43 PM
errrr Lifts have no effect on the trans. the 35's and 3.73s may, well cause more slipping. more slipping = more potential for materials

2004FX4F150
October 23rd, 2010, 01:55 PM
Trying to come up with possible reasons for it, other than it being built on a hungover monday.

RedHot150
October 23rd, 2010, 09:20 PM
According to this dealers service writer.....they say that whatever was done in the past, was not done properly....not sure how they'd really come to that conclusion....but that's what they're saying. And that's why they're saying the issues keep coming back.

As far as the 35's and the 3.73's....I'm not the first person to ever run this type of setup. I rarely haul anything and rarely tow anything. These trucks are run by construction companies with a lot of added weight and continual towing that I would have to think would cause more wear and tear on a transmission than my setup would.

And thanks Vin for your input. You're have a perfectly valid point. Even if I wanted to have the trans cooler and lines replaced, it's all up to the Ford ESP guy....not me. Like has been mentioned before, my dealer wanted to replace the transmission the last time I had an issue...Ford ESP said no. I'm at their mercy just as the dealers are.

As far as the karma thing goes...I'm not concerned. The work and what's done is up to Ford, not me. So if a future owner runs into an issue, they can take it to ford just as I've done these numerous times.

I'll be happy to be out of this Dodge Avenger loaner and back into a truck...hopefully this occurs on Thursday. Once I get it back....I'm going to complete the removal of my add-ons. So far I've swapped out all the LED lights. Tail lights and third brake light have been returned to stock. Removed my strobe kit. CB and antennas were removed a few weeks back along with my tool box. Only things remaining will be the lift, wheels/tires and the fender flares.

BigT67
October 23rd, 2010, 09:45 PM
Dodge Avenger huh? it's gotta be nicer than the Focus!

nine5flareside
October 24th, 2010, 01:53 PM
As far as Matt and his truck, anytime you own a vehicle and it doesn't work right, it is not a good feeling. My transmission (E4OD) is in its baby stages of slipping and I am not very happy. I am looking at about 1,600.00 to repair it. Luckily Matt was smart and bought the extended service plan. It would suck to have the same issues and have to pay out of pocket to repair them.

I don't know how Matt drives but assuming he drives his truck normally and doesn't beat on it like I do, I would honestly say at this point (if Matt was keeping it) , he should force them to have the entire transmission pulled. Get rid of it all, the entire trans/housing, the flex plate, torque converter, trans cooler if it has one, everything. There is an issue somewhere and obviously repairing the transmission alone doesn't fix it. Without taking the entire engine apart, replacing everything I suggested would be the best option for the dealer.

Unfortunately Matt got a crappy trans (or something causing it to go bad) and no one has been able to fix it properly. You get a warranty/extended warranty and when it's time for the dealer to do their part, they always half-ass it to save money. Not so much the tech, the tech may decide in Matts case to replace the trans but before he can do so, he has to call the big guy (not god) and get an OK. Most of the time they will not give the OK for such a costly job, costly as in the cost of the actual parts, not so much labor.

Sadly, the ESP is created more so that they can make more money off of you and not so much as to actually help you. The plan is to fix a vehicle for as cheap as possible so they can still make a profit off the money you pay for the ESP every month. It's cheaper to have the tech keep repairing the issue until you ESP runs out. The tech is there all day and getting paid anyway, it's not like they are paying him as a specialist to just fix Matts truck.

The sad part is, the day you bring it in with an expired warranty, that's the day you finally get that new part/parts you need and not a repaired version of the old one. It sucks, but that's basically how it goes. I think Matt is making the better choice by getting a newer truck.

JSoko
December 16th, 2010, 01:41 PM
did he ever get a new truck?