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Old March 24th, 2010, 04:53 PM
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Has anyone ever done the saginaw power steering pump upgrade on their
truck yet? I am very interested in doing this conversion and want to know
all the parts used for this. Thanks for any help and/or advice.




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Basically use 92 up 5.0 or 351 Serpentine equipped e-van pump ,bracket and hose and belt form van.

I used the newer 94 up van stuff on last one. Am told 302 and 351 will work for either . There is a slight difference in some years so I stick with newer vans .

Or if want new NApa did have a pump that would fit . Part 20-6255 basically install and press on pully . $104

Make sure van has same type air con set up .

I got pump ready to go on. Mine is starting to be noisy.

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whats wrong with the pump you have webby? Mine is pushing 44"s with hydro assist and it worked great without the assist. If it aint broke why fix it?


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blue thought it was - "if it aint broke, you didnt mess with it long enough"?

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when the the last P/S flush done? Was it an full flow (engine running) flush? only thing i hate about the full flush schema is the fact they use recycled (filtered) fluids. i want fresh new fluids. thing is could the noise be from air in the system or the rack starting to leak past the internal valve seals? Is there a pressure test that can be done to determine for sure its the pump bearings or seals or it is the rack and its seals?

when i had the gmc i flushed all the fluids every other year. one year i would do the engine/radiator and rear end. next year i'd do the power steering and brakes. I'm anal so i altered the trans and radiator in case a leak showed up - id know for some kind of certainity was or wasnt b/c of the flush since the radiator cools the trans. i'd do the windsheild fluid every 5-6 years just to make sure the impellar wasnt gumming up. when i did the tranny and teh fluid was clean i'd stop the flush near the end and swap out filters for a new one and close her up and finish the fill n flush.

Then again she always ran like a top and when i sold her for this truck i figured she had lots and lots of miles left on the old gal. she only had 80k. heck i had just bought her (about 8 months before) a new set of treads and had teh brake rotors resurfaced and pads were only about 25% worn so i just filed them close to flat as i could. thank goodness for a work bench, a decent radio, a stool and a refrig at arms length away.



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The stock pumps are pretty tough, ive ran them dry, full of water, and used everything from atf, powersteering fluid and engine oil in them. never wrecked one yet.(have wrecked the plastic case though)
Maybe try changing the fluid out, its cheap. (dont flush it just drain the reservoir and turn the wheels back and forth with engine off, fill and repeat if still dirty) If cost is a issue go buy hydraulic oil its the same thing but cheaper


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Just a little heads up guys, there is nothing wrong with my pump.

That being said, there is a company that makes killer pulleys for
302 blocks however, they only make their pulley for the saginaw
style pump.

These are the pumps found on mustangs and some vans as well.
Here is some quick info that may interest a few of you out there:

About five or six years ago, Saginaw power steering pumps became a popular swap item with the Early Bronco crowd, many of whom were tired of their stock, noisy Thompson power steering pumps. In addition to being noisy, the stock pumps have a nasty habit of puking fluid and wearing out quickly when used in conjunction with larger tires.

Along with a 5.0 SEFI conversion comes the Ford CII pump. These plastic-reservoired pumps are better than the older Thompson pumps, but their constant whine gets old in a hurry and certainly doesn't give one a strong sense of confidence in their reliability. The pump on the Mustang is designed for a rack and pinion steering system, which apparently operates at a much lower pressure than the recirculating ball systems in the Bronco boxes.

The Saginaw pump conversion for the v-belt 302s is a tried-and-true formula...




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Problem is most pumps have never been kept up . And r noisy/leaky for all longer it takes is a nice swap .

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Big Tony, Awesome info! i did not know that stuff. awesome tips and tricks you got stored in there. shed more please



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