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Old August 9th, 2013, 10:11 PM
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Biker and I decided to start this thread to get EVERY bit of information we can find on the 302 Windsor engine on this site, and in ONE place. We're talking things like the little known crank pilot bore depth difference's, I'll post up all the stock specs for those looking at rebuilding they're engine, torque ratings as well for head bolts and such. With this thread, we hope to help someone, somewhere, needing info, or having trouble like Biker did with his engine, to have the info readily available, and not having to search through 14 pages of a google search to find all the info...

So, over a period of time, we'll add to this thread, and if anyone has any RELEVANT information, please post it up! Let's keep this up to date with information as much as we can. And I figure we could also individually post specs of our engines, since this is an "Information" thread, so it could give someone ideas as well as educate them about this or that!
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We will be #1 one day with efforts like this.

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great idea guys! Back in the day I had 1967 Cougar xr7. With a 302. My job foreman at the time was a well known drag racer and engine builder. His specialty was head work. when he built my engine he found me a set of 351w 4barrell heads. After porting, polishing , shaving putting in bronze guides and seats and screw in studs and changing the springs to match the needs of the 592 lift 310 duration crower compu pro cam (I believe those numbers to be correct its been 28 years ago) I had a super badass seat of heads. The head gaskets had to altered by drilling new water jacket holes. the point I am trying to make. Is that it is not common knowledge to most folks that you can swap these heads with relative ease. Maybe yall might want to research this. Keep up the good work!

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Skate, do you remember what year of heads they were he installed on your Mercury? Research shows 1969-1970 heads had larger valves and ports for better performance, 1977 onward the head casting was the same between the 351w and 302, differing only in the head bolt diameters, 7/16"(302) vs. 1/2"(351w). And the Heads from 1969-1976 were completely different notably in passages for air injection and spark plug diameters (1969-1974 18 mm, 1975 and up 14 mm).
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I will dig up stuff as soon as I can. Busy with things of a more stationary nature today.



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The heads where 1970.And had the larger valves that's why he choose them. the only difference was the water jacket locations which we fixed be altering the head gaskets to match if I remember correctly

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I'll dig a little more and see what I can find! Hell, I was told I couldn't find a diagram/schematic of what had to be done to install 351c/351m/400(all the same heads!)cylinder heads on a 351w or a 302, and I found it, though it is way more complicated than what your saying about using the early 351w heads on a 302.
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This photo is a 5.0L Roller Cam Block, notice the retainer bosses in the valley?

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it is way more complicated than what your saying about using the early 351w heads on a 302.
you must consider that it was 30 years ago and I didn't do the work JC did the build, the machining and head work. the water jackets not matching up is what sticks out in my memory.also spending a bunch of

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