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Old September 24th, 2012, 06:31 PM
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The 302 that came out of my red 90 has got me stumped. I looked in the usual location for the block identification and well...... it's not there. I have picked Blue's brain about it and searched the www to no avail. Normally its on the passenger side rear of the block and there is a riased plate cast there to have the ID cast onto it.
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and here is the difference without the raised plate or ID.
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Anyone have a clue? Blue and i discussed the possibility of it being a "hecho en mexico" block but everything I've seen on the web points to those having the same ID plate cast as every other windsor block has had since 64. Aftermarket? Generally most aftermarket blocks I've seen are listed as "seasoned" or reman and i would think they wouldn't grind that plate off.



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That raised part is cast in the block, then the date is stamped, there's no plate, looks as if it were cast without a raised part, that's why I thought foreign block or reman or aftermarket.
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Is it roller ready? You might have to pull the intake to see. I'm lookin around to see what kind of info I can find on it. What heads are on it?


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Also, the casting number could be under the intake in some cases, so pulling the intake is a good idea.


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Not sure what heads are on it, haven't got that far yet. When the mexican block thing came up in conversation with Blue I decided that a set of gaskets were a small price to pay to see if "hecho en mexico" was cast in the oil valley. All the info i could find on the mexican block said the id was in the same place as the others at the p/s rear of the block with a C8 designation. So i think i can rule that out. I even found one source saying unmarked blocks were used by racing teams from NASCAR to SCCA. I doubt this was used in NASCAR because they never ran 302s. This weekend i will likely pull the intake and see what may or may not be there. Hell, i may start tomorrow, idk. I will also try and ID the heads too. Correct me if im wrong but didnt the FI manifolds only work with E7TE and GT40 heads?



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All 302 heads can be used with FI.


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Yeah i thought of that after i posted it. I knew GT40s worked with all kinds of intakes so



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I didn't do anything with it today. Worked 12 hours, came home, and did NOTHING! Just too damn wore out! If tomorrow i feel better i will yank that intake off and get to the bottom of this. Stay tuned!



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Started tearing it down and there is one pesky bolt preventing me from getting the upper intake off. It's the one that goes down through the center of the intake on the P/S. It seems to be a allen head or a torx as i couldnt see the head well ebough to determine. I did try using the allen wrenches i do have at home (rest are at work) but no luck. Anyone know what kind of bolt it is and what size?



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